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Home page | Minutes Index | Contact us by email clerk@frindsburyextra-pc.gov.ukMINUTES OF THE PARISH COUNCIL MEETING HELD ON THURSDAY 28 APRIL 2005 AT THE MEMORIAL HALL, HOLLY ROAD, WAINSCOTT AT 7.30 pm
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Cllr David Coomber |
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Cllr Gordon Bird Cllr Mrs Nancy Bird Cllr Mrs Pam Coomber .....Except item 8a(vi) Cllr Gary Etheridge Cllr Mrs Jane Etheridge.....From item 7b Cllr Mrs Brenda Hoskin.....From item 7b Cllr Tom Mason Cllr David Miller Cllr Geoff Moore |
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Mrs Roxana Brammer |
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Item
(2004/5/
Minute number)
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478 APOLOGIES
Apologies for absence were received from:
Cllr Ken Bamber, at a meeting of Medway Council.
It was proposed by the Chairman, seconded by Cllr Bird and carried unanimously that this apology be accepted by the Council.
Apologies for late arrival were received from Cllrs Etheridge and Mrs Etheridge.
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479 DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST AND ALTERATIONS TO THE REGISTER
Cllrs Coomber and Mrs Coomber declared
personal and prejudicial interests in item 8a(vi), planning application for
land adjacent to 190 Brompton Farm Road, as living close to the site. Cllrs
Bird and Mrs Bird declared personal interests in the same item, as living near
the site but not so close as to have a prejudicial interest.
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480 ANY OTHER BUSINESS OF AN URGENT NATURE
None.
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481 MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON 24 FEBRUARY 2005
It was proposed by Cllr Bird, seconded by Cllr Moore and agreed the minutes
of the meeting held on 24 February 2005 be signed as a true record.
5 MATTERS ARISING 482
No matters were raised.
6 FOOTPATHS
483 a
In Mr Levy’s absence there was no
report.
7 UPNOR
484 a Upnor Residents Society Report
In the absence of a representative, there was no report. Cllr Moore reported
that the Secretary of the Society had been in hospital for six weeks.
485 b Use of Village Sign as Logo
The Society had been informed of the Council’s decision and an invoice had been
sent. With the news of the Secretary’s hospitalisation, it was felt not to be
surprising that no reply or cheque had been received. Cllr Moore agreed to pursue
the matter.
486 c Upnor Project
The Environment Agency had approved the project. The Council’s solicitor had
been instructed to proceed with the necessary land searches.
487 d Frog Island
The Clerk reported that Dick Dingwall had had difficulty obtaining the tree
of the species and size as indicated by Medway Council and that it would now
have to wait until the autumn.
8 PLANNING
a Applications
488 i MC2005/0439: 4 Burnt House Close, Wainscott: Single storey front, side
and rear extension to existing garage with pitched roof
No objection
489 ii MC2005/0441: 26 Hughes Drive, Wainscott: First floor pitched roof rear
extension
No objection
490 iii MC1999/5795: Land at Hollywood Lane, Wainscott: Revised drawings showing
alterations to landscaping
No objection
491 iv MC2005/0498: 18 Hawkenbury Rise, Frindsbury Extra: Change of use of garage
to utility room/store
No objection
492 v MC2005/0434: Plot K3 George
Summers Close, Medway City Estate: Renewal of planning permission MC2000/0143
for use of land as a highways maintenance depot, including the storage of salt
and the siting of a portable office
No objection
Cllrs Coomber and Mrs Coomber, having declared personal and prejudicial interests
in the next item, left the room and Cllr Bird took the chair.
493 vi MC2005/0455: Land adj to 190
Brompton Farm Road: Detached house and garage (re-submission MC2004/2279)
After discussion it was agreed the Council’s former objections to this application
under MC2004/2279 be reiterated and additional comments made:
The drawings are inaccurate. The roundabout at the junction of Cliffe Road and
Brompton Farm Road is directly opposite Stonehorse Lane. On the drawing it is
shown further along Brompton Farm Road and there is no indication of the position
of Cliffe Road.
There is a barrier at the entrance to Stonehorse Lane to prevent vehicular traffic
entering the lane. This barrier is shown some way along the lane, to the benefit
of the applicant. There is no mention that the applicant wishes the barrier
to be moved from its present position to the position shown on his drawing.
When planning permission was being sought for the development that is now Hertsfield
Avenue, a proposal that a vehicular entrance into the estate from Stonehorse
Lane was disallowed. Since the building of the A289 Wainscott Northern by-pass,
when Stonehorse Lane was cut into two sections, this part has been maintained
for pedestrians and is used by dog walkers and the like. The barrier was installed
to prevent vehicles using the lane. The Parish Council considers that were the
barrier to be moved and access to this property be allowed from Stonehorse Lane,
there would be a highway hazard as the roundabout was constructed on the basis
that Stonehorse Lane would not be used by vehicles
The Parish Council is concerned at the apparent desire to create housing onto
Stonehorse Lane. The applicant describes the proposed property as being no 1,
Stonehorse Lane. It was the planning department that altered the description
to "land adjacent to 190 Brompton Farm Road". If permission for this
application were granted, it would lead to further applications for housing
along the lane, which would be difficult to defend.
The only difference in the drawings submitted as MC2005/0455 is that the applicant
shows he intends to move the barrier. The roundabout is still not shown correctly
and there is no site plan showing the relationship to Cliffe Road or the western
part of Brompton Farm Road. The applicant may not have called the application
“1, Stonehorse Lane” on this occasion but it is marked as such on at least one
of the drawings.
The Council also considers it to be backland development. The landscaping proposals
and suggested traffic management scheme are not considered to be germane to
the inherent principle of the construction of dwellings on Stonehorse Lane.
In conclusion the Council sees no difference in the applicant's intentions and
remains opposed to the application.
The Cllr Coomber and Mrs Coomber returned and Cllr Coomber resumed the chair.
b Decisions
492 The decisions as listed on Appendix A were received.
c Appeals and Other Matters
493 i S E Plan
The Clerk was delegated to send a response, with the assistance of the Chairman
and Cllr Etheridge.
494 d Minutes of the Planning Committee
Meeting held on 10 March
Noted.
495 e Presentations on Planning by Medway Council
The copies of the slides used at presentations on “Planning and Parish Councillors”
by Mark Bowen, Monitoring Officer and on “The Consideration of Planning Applications”
by Grahame Gould, Chief Planning Officer were noted. Councillors were asked
to keep them for future reference.
9 FINANCE
496 a Bank Balances
The bank balances as listed on appendix B were noted.
497 b Cheques Signed Since the Last Meeting
None
498 c Accounts for Payment
The accounts for payment (cheques 100876-100879) as listed in Appendix B were
approved, together with £66.89 to British Telecommunications (cheque 100880),
and £1,445.00 to A R Dingwall (Landscapes) (100881).
499 d Subscriptions
It was agreed to renew the subscription to KAPC, £1,020.00 from 1 April
500 e Training and Seminars
None
10 GRANT APPLICATIONS
501 None
11 HIGHWAYS AND TRANSPORT
502 a Traffic Scheme, Brompton Farm
Road/Hollywood Lane
The Chairman had received a letter from Brian Shawyer and had exchanged e-mails.
He had copied in Cllr Filmer who had not as yet responded.
503 b Stonehorse Lane
The litter and growth was still the same and the arisings from the trees were
still there. Cllr Miller said he had had a conversation with the Area Warden.
The residents who had cut down the trees had said the trees were overhanging
the garage and as nothing had been done they had cut them down. The Warden said
Medway Council was in a difficult position as the trees had not been maintained.
The Clerk was asked to contact Grahame Gould to say that the trees were cut
down in order to build the garage, with a copy to the Warden. The Chairman had
spoken to Cllr Bamber about the matter of Doug Coleman and the breaches in the
hedge and establishment of gates.
12 MANAGEMENT OF THE COUNCIL’S LAND AND PROPERTY
504 a Recreation Ground and Hedges
i Brompton Farm Road Hedge. There had been a commitment for the mature tree
to be replaced. This remains to be done.
ii Access. Cllr Etheridge said there was a need to restrict motor bikes. He
would investigate.
505 b Woodland, Lower Upnor
Nothing to report.
506 c Allotments
All except two plots were now let. The two unlet plots would require great effort
to start with and nobody had wanted them. The Clerk had suggested they might
like to make communal compost bins and it was agreed the timber would be reimbursed
if they did so. It was agreed to join the National Association of allotment
and Leisure Gardeners from 1 April. They would help with tenancy agreements
and legal matters and could also supply seeds etc. The allotment holders would
have to get together and make use of this through the Council.
13 YOUTH
507 a Shelter
This had been installed on 15 March. Cllr Wicks was keen on some sort of launch.
The Clerk was asked to report a gap in the roof to the manufacturer.
508 b Goal Posts
These had also been installed on 15 March. The Clerk had requested the PCSO
to ask the young people to continue to behave themselves.
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509 LIGHTING
Nothing to report.
15 RURAL LIAISON COMMITTEE
510 a Representative’s Report
At the last meeting Brian McCutcheon had given a presentation on SEERA’s SE
Plan and there had been items on travellers and a road bridge over the Medway,
both submitted by Cuxton PC. There had been a report on the Local Transport
Plan Framework and Review. Cllr Mike Swaby had resigned from the Standards Committee
and would be replaced by Cllr David Warrington of St James’s Isle of Grain PC.
Next year there would be 6 meetings, 3 at the Civic Centre and 3 hosted at parish
venues, in June, September and January. Because of the availability of the main
hall which would have to be used, the Council could only offer 6 June. It was
understood that another parish had offered this but the Clerk was asked to contact
Ellen Johns. The Rural Liaison Grant for the next year would be top sliced to
help fund the PCSO. An open meeting followed, at which Mark Bowen and Grahame
Gould made their presentations.
511
b Projects
Peter Bown would be indicating the amount left by 31 March. Projects for 2005/6
were discussed. The Chairman said the hall always needed money. Cllr Mason said
the Hall Committee should review how the hall is let and managed. Cllr Mrs Etheridge
said that the hall should not be allowed to deteriorate because it cost so much
more to put right. This view was endorsed by Cllr Moore.
16 KAPC/MAC
512 a Representative’s report
Cllr Moore reported on the last meeting. The speaker had been Mark Johnson on
the Rural Transport Plan. He wanted to attend meetings of all parishes. Both
Stoke and Isle of Grain were interested in youth shelters. Cuxton had again
mentioned travellers and Halling an increase of traffic on the A228. £82,000
had been raised towards replacing the Recreation Hall in High Halstow.
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513 HALL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE
Cllr Mrs Coomber reported that no
meeting had been held. The new windows had been ordered from Warmer Windows.
There had been several applicants for Treasurer. Sources of funding in money
and in kind were discussed.
18 POLICE MATTERS
514 a Police Liaison Committee representative’s
report
Cllr Miller said the next meeting was on 14 April.
515 b Neighbourhood Watch
The Strood ward councillors Neighbourhood
Watch co-ordinators meeting had been held on 25 February. A police constable
had recently been appointed to the area. Co-ordinators raised various points
but were advised to contact Area Warden John Scott. The new computer was still
not running properly. There had been thefts of cars in Brompton Farm Road, where
keys had been stolen from houses. A theft of a van had also been reported in
Wainscott Road. The van had in fact been removed as abandoned by Medway Council.
The annual conference would be held on 16 April. Wayne Court had been fenced
around all houses. The Medway Act was now in force, which made all kinds of
things illegal. The Chairman said that one resident of Brompton Farm Road was
asking if his neighbours would be interested in starting a Watch.
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516 WEBSITE
Nothing to report.
20 CONSULTATION
517 a Standards Board – Review of
Code of Conduct
The Chairman would report after the Standards Committee had met in April.
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518 CORRESPONDENCE
None received.
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519 ANNUAL PARISH MEETING
The date was set for Monday 23 May.
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520 REPORTS AND CIRCULARS
The reports and circulars as listed on the agenda were received.
The Chairman closed the meeting at 9.05 pm
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